Monday, November 11, 2019

RR#18: Starkey, pgs. 14-54

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10 comments:

  1. While reading this chapter that involved poetry, it made me more aware that poetry is really just writings that someone feels without actually saying it clearly but expecting the readers to understand it or question it to read it more. In my opinion, it has always been like art to me, how an author can write something in certain words but it’s easier to understand in another order but they both mean the same thing. It is like the author wants the readers to work and look through the words the author portrayed to get the real message across. After this chapter, however, poetry is seen in a totally different light because there is other ways the author can get their message across instead with just words. They could use these two tools, which are stanzas and lines. There is also rhyming and meter within poetry to help ease the message for the reader. When rhythm and meter and being discussed in the chapter, it states, “Because the term rhythm is more flexible than meter we often use it when referring to free verse or experimental poetry.” This means that authors are basically willing to go above and beyond for their works strictly for their readers. In conclusion, it truly does take time and talent for a poet to put their work together. It matters how many lines per stanza, how many words per line, what rhythm, and most importantly their hidden message.

    Clarissa Partida

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  2. What I did not like about the Poem of Gail White is that her mom kind of judge her because the way she dressed was not the best it was too simple. I don’t understand if her mother did not teach her to dress appropriate why the mother is complaining. What I did not like about the Poem “Winter” is that Ruth Stone’s husband committed suicide in 1959. Also, she is getting cold and she felt lonely in the train station What I did not like about the Poem “Duration” is that I did not understand.

    What I liked about the Poem of Gail White is that although her wy of dress was very simple and she was not popular either. Those two things did not make her feel down because she did not care about it, she was a very confident person. What I liked about the Poem “Winter” by Ruth Stone is that she still has good memories about her husband in the train station. What I like the Poem “Duration” by that already picture the beautiful landscape of heaven and the paradise with the blackbirds, and the tree in the neighbor’s house.

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  3. After reading this poetry chapter, it prepared me way more for what’s to come regarding the upcoming assignments for this genre. I have always hated poetry because I never understood what the authors were trying to say. For instance, in high school, we were always assigned to read a poem and write an essay on them, but I had a hard time understanding. However, after reading this chapter, it’s good to get a refresher on the subject itself. Poetry is definitely going to be a little bit more difficult and maybe less enjoyable. However, I feel like I can learn to get excited when I read poetry now after reading this chapter and doing future assignments, Something that I found interesting in this chapter was the mention of the elements of poetry. For example, the elements of poetry include “lines and stanzas, meter and rhythm, the music of poetry, images, symbols, and figurative language, etc.” (Starkey 19). I could never really tell the difference between the lines and stanzas before even though it is common sense, which is what I know of now, but more so with the chapter. Overall, this chapter really helped inform me more about poetry and the elements that make it up.
    -Alec De La Garza

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  4. As someone who is an artist, you think I would really like poetry and really appreciate it for its artistic way of writing. I don’t, it’s one of my least favorite genres, I think I appreciate reading poetry more than I do even writing it. Even then I don’t really like reading it too much either but I can understand why a lot of people really enjoy it. It is based on more emotions, and not really telling a story but feelings. Whether it’s a happy feeling or sad one, that is what poetry really tries to convey. After reading though I think I am curious to see if my feeling son poetry change, but so far it still hasn’t. I think I struggle trying to convey emotions into an artistic writing style that I tend to over think it and not even focus on what I’m trying to write about. I feel like I never really had a good time writing poetry but maybe that can change after trying it once more. I’m willing to give it shot, but I feel my love poetry is still going to remain the same even trying to write it and trying to read about it right now.

    -Alyssa Rangel

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  5. I really enjoyed the prom poem, i thought it was a perfect look into a young girls life, and the ideals that she feels she has to follow. It's no secret that alot of young girls feel the need to look or act a certain way for the attention of a guy, or the attention of friends. This need for attention comes long before social media was prominent in our current culture. This is apparent when Gail White talks about her mother, and how she knows her mother wonders why shes "stuffy" and why she ended up with a daughter that wasn't quite so extravagant. In the end she says that she was worthy, she was still a woman after all, and she did all the things her mother was afraid she wouldn't like get married.
    I also loved the descriptive writing in the poem "Duration", i thought the "sun winking behind the power line" line was really great!
    Poems are not my strong suit and im scared to dive into this but, i think i could be alright with free verse.

    Aisha Teegarden

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  6. I’ve always appreciated the art of poetry. To me, it’s a more fun way to express your emotions in a creative way. Playing with the words, the rhyme scheme, painting the picture you want in only so many words and in so many lines and stanzas -- forming those stanzas for that matter. It’s fun for me. I find it fascinating the different types of poems as well. Haikus are always fun to work on because they challenge your word choice and choice of the subject matter. I love listening to poets recite their works because each one is going to sound completely different. Nothing kills a poem faster than a cliche and so every poet tries to avoid writing them. I think this section will be the most fun for me if I’m being honest. I know the moods and tones I want to play around with and I already know the subjects I want to touch on and quite frankly, I enjoy the subtlety of poetry and how you can say how you feel without being so forthcoming about it like in a non-fiction piece or a narrative. I enjoy the whole aspect of a “hidden meaning” and playing around with words to express them.

    Bethanee Campos

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  7. I started off to find my love of writing through writing poems in elementary. It became a hobby and I got out of it once I got older. I found the prom poem to be so relevant to the times that we live in today and reminds me of how girls of all ages can rush to grow up faster. The societal standards on little girls and teenagers are detrimental to their mental and physical health because from working with kids and seeing them compare themselves to an overly photoshopped instagram model is heartbreaking. I like how the poem went full circle and showed the sudden humility the mother was struck with at the end. The expectations she had on her child were unnecessary and were only causing more harm then good. I love poetry and want to dive deep into the concepts and finding my own rhythm.

    Krista Olivarez

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  8. I'm not a fan of poetry, I don't really like it because I think it's difficult to understand everything that the author/poet is trying to convey. Not just that but when we would go over poetry in high school we were told all the requirements that we needed, the rhyming, the line and stanza requirements and it made it a little bit harder to be able to enjoy it or even try to.
    After reading this I realized that it's a lot more than just rhyming and trying to get it to flow but there is tone and imagery and so much more. I saw it as a different way to express ones feelings but I still think writing a short story would be a lot more enjoyable. What I do like about some poems is that they are deep and make you realize that there is much more to it, and some things affect peoples feelings even when you think it wont.
    -Cecilia Cantu

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  9. Poetry is not something that I was taught as a student, believe or not. While most high school seniors were learning about it, I was learning about Beowulf. My schedule did not a lot for the AP English, so I got stuck in a regular class. I took both normal and Duel enrollment English. Anyhow, I really enjoyed how dense Starkey goes into explaining the elements of poetry as well as the technical aspects to it. I knew there was more to poetry than just a few words the rhyme with each other. Poetry, I feel, is similar to that of both fiction and creative nonfiction. Both can be flared for the audience and they each contain a soul from the authors themselves. Gail White turns an experience into a poem, Ruth Stone’s Winter is not about winter, and Duration by Rae Armantrout is just plain difficult to comprehend. Poetry allows for much more flexibility than that of academic writing but may be equal to that of other creative writing genres as mentioned prior. It makes me wonder, who came up with the rules for poetry? If one individual could create a genre as expansive as this, then maybe there is room for improvement or addition by the next set of authors.

    Jonathon Morin

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